<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en">
	<id>https://governance.lopsa.org/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Interim_Board_meeting_Minutes%2F8_November_2004</id>
	<title>Interim Board meeting Minutes/8 November 2004 - Revision history</title>
	<link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="https://governance.lopsa.org/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Interim_Board_meeting_Minutes%2F8_November_2004"/>
	<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://governance.lopsa.org/index.php?title=Interim_Board_meeting_Minutes/8_November_2004&amp;action=history"/>
	<updated>2026-07-06T12:33:53Z</updated>
	<subtitle>Revision history for this page on the wiki</subtitle>
	<generator>MediaWiki 1.35.10</generator>
	<entry>
		<id>https://governance.lopsa.org/index.php?title=Interim_Board_meeting_Minutes/8_November_2004&amp;diff=1665&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Trey at 01:35, 23 May 2005</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://governance.lopsa.org/index.php?title=Interim_Board_meeting_Minutes/8_November_2004&amp;diff=1665&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2005-05-23T01:35:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border-collapse: collapse; margin:0 auto;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;text-align: center;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;30%&amp;quot; |Prior:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[[Interim Board meeting Minutes/1 November 2004|1 November 2004]]&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;40%&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;text-align: center;&amp;quot; | [[Interim Board meeting Minutes]] &lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;30%&amp;quot; |Next:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[[Interim Board meeting Minutes/6 December 2004|6 December 2004]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br style=&amp;quot;clear: both;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Minutes approved: [[Interim Board meeting Minutes/6 December 2004|6 December 2004]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This document is a board working paper, and commercial in confidence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Present: Geoff Halprin, Lorette Cheswick, David Parter, Trey Harris&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Meeting: 2004-11-08 1900 US/East&lt;br /&gt;
;Opened: 19:00&lt;br /&gt;
;Closed: 20:36&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Consent Agenda ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Meeting minutes (2004-11-01) approved by consent.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Action Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* See action item list.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==  Election Policy Decisions Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* To be decided:&lt;br /&gt;
:* Election terms and term limits.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Bylaw amendments.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Size of membership quorum: 1/10 or 1/20.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Size of board quorum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Election Terms and Term Limits&lt;br /&gt;
:* Geoff: 2 or 3 years ok. Limit at 8 years.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Too long and you lose touch; industry moved too much.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Trey: 2 or 3 years. No term limits.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Term limits are undemocratic. Solve the wrong problem.&lt;br /&gt;
::* (Would need to be large. e.g. 12 yrs.)&lt;br /&gt;
::* We want to encourage &amp;quot;up through the ranks&amp;quot; progression where someone is general, then officer, then pres.&lt;br /&gt;
:* David: 2 year term.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Need term limit. Known name can hang on too long.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Members are unaware of board problems.&lt;br /&gt;
::* 3 terms (6 yrs) is about right.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Past President handles continuity issue.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Lorette:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Term limits good and bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Needed to remove someone.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Good person denied.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Don&amp;#039;t care; it&amp;#039;s really for the nomcomm and training.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Terms for X years, but:&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Need to rotate positions.&lt;br /&gt;
::* 8-12 year limits.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote: 2 year terms. Unanimous.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:* Vote: No term limits. Failed.&lt;br /&gt;
::* 8 years: Failed.&lt;br /&gt;
::* More discussion ensued.&lt;br /&gt;
::* 10 years: Trey, -David, Lorette, Geoff.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No limits: Trey, David, Lorette, Geoff.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::* Address downsides through nomcomm, board training.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Past President&lt;br /&gt;
:* Trey:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Problem: Unpopular past president. (who couldn&amp;#039;t be reelected)&lt;br /&gt;
:* David:&lt;br /&gt;
::* If membership does not elect position, then no.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Lorette:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Non-voting role. solved.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Geoff:&lt;br /&gt;
::* One-year handover capacity. Non-voting.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Issue deferred.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Size of board and quorum, officers, executive committee.&lt;br /&gt;
:* NJ Officers: Pres, Treas/Sec&lt;br /&gt;
:* Trey:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Board size: 7 or 9.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Quorum: 51% of filled seats.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Vote: Majority of those voting (excl. abstensions).&lt;br /&gt;
::* Officers:&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Pres, VP/Sec, Treas (but treas/sec ok).&lt;br /&gt;
:* Lorette:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Size: 7 &lt;br /&gt;
::* Quorum: majority of filled seats.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Vote: Simple majority of those voting.&lt;br /&gt;
::* (IPP would take away a spot on a small board.)&lt;br /&gt;
::* Officers:&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Pres, sec, treas, vp.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* EC: willing to try 3.&lt;br /&gt;
:* David:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Size: 7 or 9. Leaning towards 9. 8 ok.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Quorum: Majority of filled seats.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Vote: Majority of those voting (excl. abstensions).&lt;br /&gt;
::* Officers: VP as leadership development role.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Pres/treas co-sign money.&lt;br /&gt;
::* EC: Leave composition of exec comm. to board.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* What is role of EC?&lt;br /&gt;
:* Geoff:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Size: 7-9. Leaning towards 9.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Quorum: ditto&lt;br /&gt;
::* Vote: ditto&lt;br /&gt;
::* Officers: Pres, Sec/Treas (compliance), other.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Sec/Treas is compliance. (Staff do this.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::* VP is pres in training.&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Personality issue. (Treas often doesn&amp;#039;t make good Pres.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::* Paradox: sec/treas most trained.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;3-person exec committee: Pres, Sec/Treas, VP.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:* Trey:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Youth member. 8+1?&lt;br /&gt;
:* Lorette:&lt;br /&gt;
::* Proportional voting and nomcomm can fix this.&lt;br /&gt;
::* Use the advisory board.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Geoff:&lt;br /&gt;
::* And election materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Officers: Pres, VP, Sec/Treas. Unanimous.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Size: 9. Unanimous.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Quorum: 51% of filled seats. Unanimous.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote: Majority of those voting (excl. abstensions). Unanimous.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* EC: deferred.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*To be decided:&lt;br /&gt;
:* Size of membership quorum: 1/10 or 1/20.&lt;br /&gt;
:* Bylaw amendments&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Meeting closed: 20:36&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Trey</name></author>
	</entry>
</feed>