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		<title>Dparter at 17:55, 16 January 2006</title>
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		<title>TreyBot: flagging page with &#039;SAGE&#039;</title>
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		<title>Pat at 01:51, 9 September 2005</title>
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Date:    Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:38:19 EDT&lt;br /&gt;
To:      sage-members@sage.org&lt;br /&gt;
From:    Geoff Halprin &amp;lt;geoff@sage.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: [SAGE] August 2004 Memo to Members&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SAGE Memo To Members - August 2004&lt;br /&gt;
----------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been a month since the previous update was sent to members.&lt;br /&gt;
It&amp;#039;s time for another update.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To recap:&lt;br /&gt;
  At the June 27 USENIX Board of Directors meeting it was decided to&lt;br /&gt;
  dissolve the STG model governing SAGE, and to support the creation&lt;br /&gt;
  of an independent non-profit SAGE. USENIX is committed to continuing&lt;br /&gt;
  all SAGE services, and is continuing to operate those services&lt;br /&gt;
  during the transition period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  The SAGE Executive Committee held a teleconference on July 7th to&lt;br /&gt;
  discuss the situation and how to proceed. The conclusion of the&lt;br /&gt;
  discussion is that moving ahead to form an independent SAGE is the&lt;br /&gt;
  right thing to do. Geoff Halprin, Trey Harris and David Parter were&lt;br /&gt;
  appointed to the core transition team, which will also serve as the&lt;br /&gt;
  interim board of the new organisation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since then, the following steps have been taken:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Lorette Cheswick has joined the Interim Board.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Lorette is organizing the paperwork and consulting with other non-&lt;br /&gt;
   profit organizations, lawyers and accountants with the intention of&lt;br /&gt;
   registering as a 501(c)(3) charitable non-profit organization.&lt;br /&gt;
   Lorette has previous experience with several non-profits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. 23 members of the system administration community were invited to&lt;br /&gt;
   join the new SAGE Advisory Council, in order to give the interim&lt;br /&gt;
   board wider, more diverse points of view and experiences as we&lt;br /&gt;
   consider various issues in organizing the new SAGE.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   To date, the following people have joined the advisory council:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
      Elizabeth Zwicky, Steve Simmons, Aeleen Frisch, Bill LeFebvre,&lt;br /&gt;
      Mark Verber, Donal Cunningham, Xev Gittler, Amy Rich,&lt;br /&gt;
      Tom Limoncelli, Mark Burgess, Alva Couch, David Blank-Edelman,&lt;br /&gt;
      Pat Wilson, Adam Moskowitz, Luke Kanies, Phil Kizer, and&lt;br /&gt;
      Marius Strom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   We are awaiting responses from a few others. We may add further&lt;br /&gt;
   members to the council as appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4. Chris Palmer, Marius Strom and Phillip Steinbachs have helped us&lt;br /&gt;
   setup an interim mail server and wiki for use during the transition.&lt;br /&gt;
   (Normal services continue to be found at sage.org.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   The interim board can be reached at &amp;lt;board@sage-members.org&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5. The following tasks have been assigned to the members of the&lt;br /&gt;
   core team:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Lorette Cheswick&lt;br /&gt;
    - Investigation and formation of legal structure (501c3).&lt;br /&gt;
    - Drafting of initial rules, by-laws and policies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Geoff Halprin&lt;br /&gt;
    - Operations model. As part of establishing a new assocation, we&lt;br /&gt;
      must address the areas of front-office and back-office functions&lt;br /&gt;
      (member enquiries, press enquiries, fulfillment, renewals, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
      Geoff is investigating how best to address this area.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   David Parter&lt;br /&gt;
    - Online services transition. Most of SAGE&amp;#039;s services are delivered&lt;br /&gt;
      online, either via the web site or via mailing lists. Work must be&lt;br /&gt;
      performed to create the necessary infrastructure and to migrate&lt;br /&gt;
      services.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Trey Harris&lt;br /&gt;
    - Draft an initial list of questions to submit to the advisory&lt;br /&gt;
      council.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### MOVING FORWARD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a number of steps involved in creating a new organisation,&lt;br /&gt;
and many choices we must make as we proceed along this path. We will&lt;br /&gt;
be seeking the advice of the council as appropriate, and we will be&lt;br /&gt;
seeking help from the greater membership. Some of the issues that will&lt;br /&gt;
be determined over the coming months are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Governance issues&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   Draft bylaws and policy documents will be drawn up and circulated&lt;br /&gt;
   to the advisory council for discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Organizational/management issues&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   We have to decide on how the organization will be managed. The two&lt;br /&gt;
   options are to hire an association management company or to hire a&lt;br /&gt;
   part-time office manager/administrative assistant to establish an&lt;br /&gt;
   office, maintain the books, and assist in organizing the various&lt;br /&gt;
   tasks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. Schedule and budget&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   A realistic schedule of milestones for both organizational&lt;br /&gt;
   objectives and for program transfer needs to be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   An interim budget for the organisation needs to be established.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4. IT plans&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   We need to establish an IT infrastructure, both for the SAGE online&lt;br /&gt;
   presence and for &amp;quot;back office&amp;quot; operations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5. Program plan&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   We must develop an initial plan for which new programs to offer,&lt;br /&gt;
   and their relative priorities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### TASK TEAMS/VOLUNTEERS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is our intention to work with the advisory council and the wider&lt;br /&gt;
membership to recruit task-oriented volunteer teams to carry out&lt;br /&gt;
many of the organizational and progam-related tasks. Expect to hear&lt;br /&gt;
more about this in the next few weeks, as we identify specific areas&lt;br /&gt;
and tasks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
### IN CONCLUSION&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
SAGE is moving forward on its plan to create a viable, independent&lt;br /&gt;
professional assocation for system administrators. Much of this work&lt;br /&gt;
will be behind the scenes, but there will be significant venues for&lt;br /&gt;
members to contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The most important things right now are to continue the activities of&lt;br /&gt;
the sage-members forum and the SAGE local groups, contribute news&lt;br /&gt;
articles to the sage-news editors, and to recruit attendees for the&lt;br /&gt;
annual LISA conference (http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa04/).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We welcome your comments and contributions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm regards,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The SAGE Interim Board&lt;br /&gt;
(Geoff Halprin, David Parter, Trey Harris, Lorette Cheswick)&lt;br /&gt;
board@sage-members.org&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Pat</name></author>
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